For example, if I've slept with you, and then I NEVER answer the phone when you call or text you back it more than likely means I have no interest in talking to you.
You'd think after months of this happening she'd get the hint. But no, I still get the "you never answer your phone" text messages on a frequent basis.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Wow. You're a dick.
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
She knew GOING IN TO IT that nothing was going to happen between us. I TOLD HER that nothing was going to happen. No feelings, no nothing.
I did my job, and she agreed to it. Not my fault she can't stick to the agreement.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Not saying she's right to keep calling after however long, but surely you must realize there are better, more respectful ways to address the situation than just ignoring her.
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
That's just it, though. I've since explained the situation and how I don't want to have night time conversations with her. She knows where I am romantically yet continues to pursue.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
You're wrong, though. She sees competition. And she seems to be taking the challenge. Congrats Brandon, you're now a piece of meat that needs to be owned.
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3/>- Gavi
That isn't what I wanted.
And I would have never slept with her if I wasn't rebounding at the time... although that's not much of an excuse...
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Whether you wanted it or not, that's what you've got. Sometimes (most times) no matter how clear you think you are being, the woman folk only hear what they want to hear.
Wish I had some advice for you, but even though this happened to me on a couple of occasions, nothing I did was good enough to keep it from devolving into a disaster. Good luck, yo.
And cheez, yeah I know we're pigs to think this way about women, but if you haven't noticed already you're a special case. A lot of woman are this shallow, sad to say.
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3/>- Gavi
the woman folk only hear what they want to hear.
A lot of woman are this shallow, sad to say.
You disgust me. Do you know how freaking sexist your post just was? You think women are different than just "people"? PEOPLE only hear what they want to hear. PEOPLE are shallow. You make no case for yourself by putting these sickening blinders on yourself by generalizing a gender for something the ENTIRE human race can be generalized as. You think you're different than this gender you're degrading? You really think so? I say you're just as shallow as you claim women are.
Your post left me shaking in anger. I bet you don't even see the harm in the words you just said. You're disgusting for saying those things.
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
*walks into topic*
Hey guys wha-
*walks out of topic*
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Well, there is a new accent of n00b language. It's called: Vet LUEser goes Foreign!-MegaSpy22
Those must be the pants of the gods!-Digitalpython
To me the fact that she's still hooked is nothing but a basic effect of female human sexuality. I can elaborate, but this situation is entirely predictable and ordinary.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
(I'm sick of saying "Pooty's ex". Let's just call her "Olga".)
But Cheez, Mith qualified the first statement with "sometimes" and the second with "a lot of". I think we all agree that there are
at least some people of each gender who "are shallow" and "hear what they want to hear", whatever these terms really mean in this context, and
at least some who aren't and don't. It isn't any more sexist to say that there are a lot of shallow women than to say that there are a lot of aggressive men. What would be sexist is if, say, we characterized Olga in this derogatory fashion before we learned that she does in fact fulfill the stereotype.
From: AzumarillMan | Posted: 1/26/2011 1:20:27 AM | #011
To me the fact that she's still hooked is nothing but a basic effect of female human sexuality.
This I find more objectionable. Look, I won't argue about whether Olga's nasty behavior has a motive which is characteristic of female sexuality. That's besides the point. The point is that people are responsible for their sexual behavior. Hence, ignoring what a man says about his feelings towards you because your sexuality eggs you on is no more justifiable than raping a woman because your sexuality eggs you on. (Well, obviously, it isn't nearly as unethical, but you get the idea.) If women are inclined to willful ignorance (and to be clear, Cheez, I'm not at all sure this is the case, I'm just imagining it is for the sake of argument) and men to rape, these inclinations do not excuse willful ignorance or rape. They just mean that women should critically examine their beliefs about men's romantic leanings, and men should critically examine their beliefs about women's consent to sex. So when people go ahead and do these bad things anyway, the appropriate way to respond is not "Well, that's typical for (wo)men; them's the brakes" but, e.g., "Why can't this character control their sexuality like a civilized person?".
Excuse me, Jordan, if this is actually a straw-man argument. It's just important not to get fatalistic about sexual behavior.
By the way, Brandon, would you agree that you now have sufficient reason to cut all ties with Olga now and forever?
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
This isn't Pooty's ex, correct? It's a different girl. At this point in the story Pooty hasn't slept with his ex, I don't think. Unless I'm behind on the episodes of everyone's favorite PMSoap opera...
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
And yeah, I'm not defending that behavior. But it makes sense why that's happening.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
In deference to this blost, which if I were to summarize it, would pollute the heavens with too many redundant ideas:
http://www.lessthanwomprat.com/?p=1331
C'mon, Mith, you're being a dick. I know you didn't mean to, but c'mon man.
That said, AMan, you are being much more of a dick. It's one thing to take on a "who needs women?" stance when comforting a buddy, but that post is just a crass attempt to denigrate an entire sex's personhood without even going to the trouble of explaining your reasoning. Your position has less going for it than phrenology because at least that utilizes fake science.
Now everyone tell Cheez "my bad" and we can go back to what a dick Pooty's being.
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
that post is just a crass attempt to denigrate an entire sex's personhood
Wait, what?
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
nothing but a basic effect of female human sexuality. I can elaborate, but this situation is entirely predictable and ordinary.
You can't see how that's a little dismissive of women as individual thinking beings?
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
Although truth told I am a little disgusted with myself for typing "denigrate... personhood."
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
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From: AzumarillMan | Posted: 1/26/2011 9:00:16 AM | #013
This isn't Pooty's ex, correct?
Beats me. I just assumed that's who he was talking about.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
To clarify, NO THIS IS NOT AN EX OF MINE.
She was a hook-up. Nothing more. I never spent a dime on this girl and we were never "together," not even for a second.
She was one night of fun and that's it.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
And if it makes me a dick, fine. It doesn't offend me.
Because if you're gonna tell me that you want it, and you're good-looking enough to warrant me taking you home, AND you essentially give me verbal consent then yes - you're more than likely going to get it. I like to have fun. If you get caught in the cross-fire of only being one night then that's not my fault. Cold, perhaps, but not wrong.
If I like you, I'll call you. If I like you, I'll ask you out to dinner or something.
If I TELL YOU that your time is up, then you are out. Plain and simple.
And if she can't grasp that then she should have never taken her thong off in the first place.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
I hate to triple post, but just to show how crazy this girl is try this on for size.
I TOLD HER face to face that I was considering getting back together with Lindsey (my ex) and she broke down and cried right in front of me, citing that she "deserves her chance" to be with me.
That is CRAZY. It's not like we dated, and I ended it or something. I should have never given her my number. Or let her know where I work...
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Back to my original point, from what I've observed females seem much less equipped to fully separate the physical and emotional implications of sex. They may think they can at the time, but afterwards, they need the legitimate emotional connection to justify the physical boundaries they passed with that person. I can't tell you the number of female friends I have that have stayed in miserable relationships with their boyfriends simply because they had sex and their heart insists on retaining the only way to justify how much of their body they gave up to him.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
Your observations aren't necessarily reflective of all (or even most) women. Throughout college, my closest female friends consistently had an easier time separating their sex lives from their romantic lives than my closest male friends did (and yes, there was one case of overlap). Overall, there wasn't a huge divide - there usually isn't when it comes to the sexes. But the trend I observed in this small group was that the men usually had a slightly greater desire to pursue a relationship or some kind of prolonged interaction while the women were content to keep things strictly physical.
On the extreme side of things, one time this guy came around and left garden picked flowers on the hood of my friends car, wrote her a drunken note, and told her he loved her the next day. All this after 2 weekends of hanky panky and no real friendship or interaction outside of that.
This doesn't mean that most men are unable to cope with passing certain physical boundaries without bringing an emotional element into play, or that such behavior is ordinary. These are just some stories about the people I know and how they act. Same goes for your point of view.
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But Cheez, Mith qualified the first statement with "sometimes" and the second with "a lot of". I think we all agree that there are at least some people of each gender who "are shallow" and "hear what they want to hear",
That's not the point and you know that's not the point. Singling out women for this is sexist and I hope you realize that. Also, the word "a lot" signifies that most women are like this which is incorrect and STILL sexist.
The fact you feel you need to defend this confuses the crap out of me. I honestly thought you were more intelligent and able to read between the lines better, Kodi.
whatever these terms really mean in this context, and at least some who aren't and don't. It isn't any more sexist to say that there are a lot of shallow women than to say that there are a lot of aggressive men.
Yes, but the fact is NO ONE WAS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT MEN. Why the f*** would you bring this up? The fact is it's sexist and I have no idea what the heck you think you're saying, but you aren't defending mith or yourself with this post.
I brought other people from another forum to read this topic (before my last post. And no, none of them were girls either) and they were also disgusted by what pooty and mith wrote. I have no idea why anyone would get the impression none of it is sexist because it definitely is.
This entire topic honestly makes my stomach hurt a little.
<Aman's post>
This I find more objectionable.
If you're just finding out now that Aman is socially inept then I feel sorry for you. I thought it was a consensus he's a dick. :3
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
lol, you take me way too seriously. I take it you're not much for joking around with.
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3/>- Gavi
That's the worst defense I've ever seen.
Might I redirect you to this site: http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
mith, i take it you've forgotten about the gorillas
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"I think life is much more simple now that my teenage days." --freepizza
My cousin Mike who is divorced gave me some advice the other...well everytime I am around him.
"If you don't hate **** her the first time you meet her then she is gonna walk all over you."
"Never use the L word with whores."
"All women are whores."
"If you dont tie her up, she will tie you up, which is good for once off thing, but you need to be in control."
"I hate women"
"If she is a three hole girl, she is a keeper."
"Treat em like dirt"
"Shove a remote up there"
"Shove a hairbrush up there."
"I'm gonna make her lick this poster of Babe: Pig in the City"
He is the skankiest dude I know. And he gets the skankiest women I've ever imagined. Lets put Mith comments in perspective of how sexist they are.
Course it seems he was emotionally destroyed by his divorce, but it's just filthy. I've been around him 4 times over the past couple of weeks, and every time we are together he says this stuff constantly. Well, whenever he isn't making a racist remark.
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"...you should try reading my posts being getting all emo." --FoxMetal
You're right, I did fox.
I'm not defending at all. I never claimed to not be a dick. On the contrary, actually.
Now that that is cleared up, the little woman is in the kitchen making sammichs. Anyone want?
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http://lostfacts.net/boards/
3/>- Gavi
Nope, didn't work.
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"...you should try reading my posts being getting all emo." --FoxMetal
Hmm. I thought we had clickable links now? Maybe there needs to be a url tag. Ah well. Whatever.
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
I just want to say two things. "A lot" doesn't mean most. A lot of people love the Cleveland Browns. Most don't.
And Cousin Mike is my new hero.
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cheez- account settings -> display
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"I think life is much more simple now that my teenage days." --freepizza
Okay, yeah. That's fair. Point taken.
Anyway, I've said all I really needed to say. I gotta go make mith a sammich or something. You want turkey or ham, baby?
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
Ugh, now I'm all confused. Did I misinterpret what Mith was saying? I dunno, but I stand by my claims, Cheez, down to the existence of a lot of aggressive men. As OKid said, "a lot" doesn't mean "most". And please don't rage at me like that. It's not civil, and I wasn't attacking you, anyway.
No, I can't read between the lines; indeed, I positively refuse to read between them. I have enough trouble just trying to figure out what people
mean to mean.
From: TheCheezBounce | Posted: 1/26/2011 12:21:55 PM | #026
If you're just finding out now that Aman is socially inept…
No, whatever quality AMan has that makes him AMan—I'd put it more tactfully than calling him socially inept—I'm well aware of it.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
I like how you're concerned with my lack of tact given the context of this whole topic. It's cute, really.
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
I talked to Cheez over Skype IM intending to defuse some of the anger exhibited in this topic. She told me to tell everyone she won't be posting on PMS any more.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
Hah. All you did was call me uncivil. If that's what you mean by "defusing anger." :3
Anyway, I don't know why you felt you had to come chastise me on skype. I felt we were done arguing. Hence my "I'm done arguing. I've said all I wanted to say" post. Good job on defusing that anger, man. (b*w*)b
But anyway, yeah. If kodi is an indication of PMS opinion, then this place isn't for me, anyway. I was gonna go "poof" anyway, but kodi felt he had to pop up on my skype and make himself think he's the reason why. Ah well. Go ahead and pat yourself on the back if you want, kodi. I can tell you personally I came to the decision way before you decided to talk to me. :D
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Holy **** we're in the Matrix? - Willis
Wouldn't it be more helpful to tell Pooty why you find his actions offensive, and how there's probably a more respectful way to handle the situation? This would be good for a couple of reasons. First off, you help out Pooty. So, Pooty - I know you've told this person how you felt about things before, after, and so on, but if it's months now of unanswered calls and texts, she clearly isn't on the same page as you are. So talk to her. Be extremely frank about everything. I'm still optimistic that most people can be reasoned with.
Second reason, if you think Pooty's a dick, you might want to talk it out with him, and try to get him to see how he's acting like dick in your mind. I mean, I know it's all subjective, the dickishness. And I'm not saying it's anyone's duty to dedickify the board or the world. But coming into a topic, guns blazing, and just calling a dude a dick doesn't get anyone anywhere really. Like, his second post added some much needed context that makes things little less dicky. And by continuing the conversation the dickosity of it all could be brought down considerably, whether it's by learning more details of the story or by suggesting less dickly actions to take in the future.
The silver lining here is this: I had no idea dick wasn't a blocked word.
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yeah, i'm with pooty on this one. he was honest about the terms, and it's evident that he doesn't want anything more with this girl. just because she wants something more doesn't mean he's obligated to go out of his way to make her happy. that wouldn't be fair for either party. she's been rejected and she'll have to deal with it, just like anyone else would in this kind of situation. and cheez, quit crying about how we're not a good fit for you and whatever. we've heard it before and we'll probably hear it again, but what purpose does telling us serve? it's unnecessarily patronizing (as are many of your posts), and after all these years you'd think you would either accept us as the dicks we are or at least not be rude about our moral inconsistencies.
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"I think life is much more simple now that my teenage days." --freepizza
I've known Brandon for twelve years or so, and "dick" is certainly last on the list of words I'd use to describe him.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
Aw, c'mon, guys, PMS isn't about hate and ragequitting. Well, not since 2002.
I think the thing that needs to get put out there is that nobody tried to offend anybody. Well I guess I was trying to offend AMan, but that's a separate issue.
Nobody was trying to piss anybody off, and as a result it can be confusing and frustrating to find that someone is pissed off in spite of that. It's why people rail against the "PC": because good people don't like to be told that they're bad when it doesn't seem like they have been. The thing to stop and consider is that although you may not have done anything objectively wrong, it is possible for someone to be harmed by that benign action.
Take this topic for example: to Gary and Kodi, a statement about "a lot of women" is totally kosher, and really at first shake it's okay: "A lot of" absolutely does mean "a good number but not a majority." The issue isn't that it's something openly pejorative (it clearly not Cousin Mike), but that it's a statement broadly critical of innumerable people in a given ontological state (i.e. female). It just sucks when one of those is about you regardless of your ability to think intellectually about it.
It's great being a heterosexual white male because there are very few examples I can give. If you guys remember reading Kodi's rape myths thread, and you got a sour feeling in your stomach because you felt accused of some wrongdoing in which you took no active part, that's what that was. It doesn't matter if you intellectually knew that he wasn't talking about you personally, it still felt like "men are rapists" and it still made you feel pissed off and sick. Or: I was talking to one of my best friends--a Latin dude--and he remarked that "pumpkin pie is for white people." I was like "what's wrong with being white, that whiteness could possibly make pumpkin pie unpalatable?" and that was the faintest shadow of what I'm talking about. I felt kinda sad because of the way my best friend disparaged a kind of pie I like.
If you can put yourself in that place for a second, I think you can see where Cheez is coming from, and Kodi, there's sort of an equivalence between the particular criticism of women-as-such and the idea that men-as-such are aggressive, except that as hegemonic individuals, we can kind of shrug it off and go about our days. The "all sex with a straight man is rape" people are dismissed as raving lunatics, but lots of intelligent, kind-hearted people think that women are self-deluded and too emotionally fragile to engage in certain sorts of relationships. And when you're going about your day and find that specific intelligent, kind-hearted people think that about everyone like you but you, words like "you disgust me" come out, and they're not necessarily unwarranted.
I was glib about this before and that probably didn't help things. Gary I didn't mean to call you a dick in the sense that you were being malicious. I meant that you were doing a thing that caused a harm with a depth you probably didn't realize, and that, since Cheez made the depth of that harm clear, it'd be a nice gesture to say "oh, my bad." And I apologize if I'm coming off as holier-than-thou, but it's a very difficult thing to become aware of, and it'd really mean something if we all, when confronted with the reality of that harm, rather than argue for its dismissible irrationality, step back, accept the validity of the other person's perspective and say "oh, my bad."
So guys, don't ragequit and disparage women. We should work together to create a more peaceful, more perfect PMS.
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And ALL that said: yeah, okay, Pooty. I mean if you told her what was up from the start, it's all you can do.
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
Oh cheese, you remind me of a girl that I once knew. See her face whenever I, I look at you. Wouldnt believe all of the things she put me through. This is why I cant get with you.
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"...you should try reading my posts being getting all emo." --FoxMetal
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I have no objection to Cheez being offended and calmly explaining how she takes exception to what Gary or I or anybody else says. I can, in fact, sympathize with this particular instance of her being offended, although I disagree that Gary has really earned the term "sexist"; he deserves the benefit of the doubt just as much as she does, and can't be held responsible for the errors of males in general any more than Cheez can be held responsible for the errors of females in general.
What I object to is the hostility which Cheez has brought to bear against several people in this topic, including me. It's unkind and it's counterproductive to fruitful discussion. To me it seems eminently reasonable to ask that people be civil, but Cheez said I'm "afraid of conflict". She appears to see nothing wrong with being wrathful.
*Sees LinkPrime walking out of topic, whilst walking in*
Hey guys wha-
*walks out of topic*
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Cheez has been the least civil in her delivery but her point is decent. Meanwhile, AMan's point of view is probably the most controversial, and yet nobody's pissed off at him.
So Cheez my message to you is that being right cannot stand alone; you have to be nice about it.
Alex, what the hell, we've put up with you long enough.
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"...you should try reading my posts being getting all emo." --FoxMetal
P.S. I think Pooty's done this girl wrong. IMO sex is supposed to be unitive; to have sex and ask that it not be unitive devalues sex and distorts peoples' viewpoints about it and robs it of its unique value. Of course that's the Catholic perspective, and I know most of you don't share that. But Pooty's a self-declared Catholic; he can at least acknowledge I'm right from the Christian perspective even if he doesn't want to align himself with it.
Having actually read the topic now, I will say this:
I really like Wil's most recent post, which isn't much of a surprise to anyone since I'm sort of a Wil Fan Club member. But it made a lot of sense and was a very important issue to bring to light- in fact, one of the primary issues whose oversight causes conflict escalation.
On a moral landscape, I also agree with your most recent post, Alex. On a humor landscape, I really agree with freepizza's "what the hell" post.
Lastly, Kodi. I completely understand what you're talking about- that things should be discussed in a civil manner. But the thing is, it's not always easy. We're humans, and our decisions are largely based on chemical-induced emotions (citation needed). When things start getting carried away, it's hard to take a step back. I'm sure we've all been there.
Lastlier, Cheez. C'mon, there's a lot of love for you here, and if you left it would be in punishment to us and our community. You don't really want to leave... do you? ;_;
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On a posting landscape, I like Mark's post.
Ed: Oh, unless that's a circular function. Like that makes you divide by zero.
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Willis, it seems like every other time you post, I need to look up a word that's in the OED or Urban Dictionary but not both.
-Mimir
I'm ashamed that this topic has brought so much anger... yet happy that it's easily my most successful topic in a long time!
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
I've known Brandon for twelve years or so, and "dick" is certainly last on the list of words I'd use to describe him.
Aww... thanks, buddy. I love you, too. :)
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
P.S. I think Pooty's done this girl wrong. IMO sex is supposed to be unitive; to have sex and ask that it not be unitive devalues sex and distorts peoples' viewpoints about it and robs it of its unique value. Of course that's the Catholic perspective, and I know most of you don't share that. But Pooty's a self-declared Catholic; he can at least acknowledge I'm right from the Christian perspective even if he doesn't want to align himself with it.
Absolutely, you have the Christian perspective correct. I just don't follow it from a "sex" standpoint in the slightest.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
P.S. I think Pooty's done this girl wrong. IMO sex is supposed to be unitive; to have sex and ask that it not be unitive devalues sex and distorts peoples' viewpoints about it and robs it of its unique value. Of course that's the Catholic perspective, and I know most of you don't share that. But Pooty's a self-declared Catholic; he can at least acknowledge I'm right from the Christian perspective even if he doesn't want to align himself with it.
This. Drawing from both a religious and secular point of view, I find the notion of an individual's "sex life" to be destructive. To me, a "healthy sex life" is something that belongs to two people, not one.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
From: HeyDude | Posted: 1/26/2011 8:22:07 PM | #051
But Pooty's a self-declared Catholic…
This is news to me!
From: BUM | Posted: 1/26/2011 8:41:34 PM | #052
…our decisions are largely based on chemical-induced emotions (citation needed).
We're chemically-induced life-forms, and no sane person doubts the influence that emotions have on decision-making, so this isn't exactly a controversial claim.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
I knew it was basically taken for granted, but I didn't want to go throwing around things like "chemically-induced" since my expertise in the field is pretty much nil, and could lead me to a poor place if I was actually wrong. Not so much the claim that we have chemicals doing things in our bodies, but that these processes are directly responsible for emotions.
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Well (yay digression!), "chemicals" is an extremely broad term. Anything which is made up of matter, which has actual substance, is essentially no more than an arrangement of chemicals. People use the term "chemicals" as if had some more specific meaning, like "hormones" or "neurotransmitters" or "pesticides" or "greenhouse gases", but in most cases—including this case—I'm at a loss to determine what the actual intended specific meaning is. If by "chemical" you meant something more specific than "matter", I don't know what it is.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
Yeah, you are correct that when you hear the word chemical it tends to be in reference to, say, those things that sound all chemical-like. Like "dopamine" or "trinitro toluene"
Of course, it's true that hot dogs are made up of chemicals, and lemonade, and everything material, but to say that one is eating chemicals, while entirely correct, sounds odd to the casual fellow. I suppose that's just a way that speech has taken us. Kind of like how when people say "only a fraction of the cost" and you think to yourself that any value can be represented as a fraction, so what's that really communicating? Okay, not entirely like that, but it's been on my mind for a while and I need some place to write it out.
So despite its real definition, I was using it in the lay sort of way, to represent the notion of science stuff happening in peoples' heads.
Now I feel like I need to find a Bill Nye video and learn more about the cause of emotional response.
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Let's put it in a secular way Pooty. Any time you defy an instinct it's probably going to cause psychological distress. The mating instinct is telling people who've had sex with each other that they are mated. When you hit it and quit it, it's provably stressful.
Mark: relatedly and humorously, my dad uses the word "chemmy" to mean "having a strange, unpleasant aftertaste characteristic of artificial sweeteners and other high-tech substitutes for more familiar food ingredients". So he (or I) might take a bite of ice cream and say "Hm… good, but a little too chemmy."
I don't think Bill Nye did any episodes on psychology. Although he should have! In fact, I'd like to star in my own irreverent children's television show about cognitive and social psychology. Maybe with a little neuroscience mixed in.
Alex: "instinct"? Brandon himself is a counterexample, in that he doesn't find casual sex inherently stressful.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
Well, at least stressful enough to have to make a topic complaining about the aftermath.
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Seth: What are you making?
Evan: I'm just drilling holes. Last two weeks, **** it.
To an extent. I've certainly been with a few girls that I would have liked to have seen again that had no interest in me beyond what we had/did.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Jordan: Well, that's why I said "inherently", the cause of the stress in this case being somebody else's reaction.
Brandon: This is also news to me.
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"Now I will have less distraction." —Euler, upon going blind in one eye
Had I known this was going to happen anyways I never would have deleted my earlier post.
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3/>- Gavi
Point is I didn't beat down their doors trying to change their minds.
I know when to cut my losses and when to pursue. Saves me a lot of unnecessary stress.
And to keep everyone updated, she called me at freaking 8:27AM this morning. WHO DOES THAT?
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas
Maybe you should give yourself a chance to love her.
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"...you should try reading my posts being getting all emo." --FoxMetal
Ew, no.
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"A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." - George Lucas