Kodi Arfer / Wisterwood

Malarkey!

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#001 | Jacehan |
What a great word.
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#002 | PaperSpock |
Indeed. Also loved the ending statement, "Honey, it's going to be okay."

I was a bit disappointed about the last question, about the mudslinging. Biden mostly dodged it, and Ryan basically didn't discuss it at all.
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#003 | Jacehan |
I thought the previous question about abortion was pretty good, though. But maybe that's just because I'm a Catholic who has been conflicted about it myself.
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#004 | Kodiologist |
You aren't observant, are you? The Vatican considered homosexuality sinful the last time I checked. Or are you a non-Roman Catholic?

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#005 | LinkPrime1 |
Correction there Kodi- there is no such thing as a "non-Roman Catholic" Catholic. Unless things have changed since the last time I checked, of course.

Back to the topic at hand, malarkey is a fantastic word that is heavily underused, just like one of my personal favorite words "balderdash".
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#006 | Kodiologist | | (edited)
Whatever the Vatican's opinions on the matter, there are indeed Christians who called themselves "Catholic", sometimes downcased, but who don't consider the Pope an authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_term_Catholic

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#007 | HeyDude |
Yeah, the Lutheran church I grew up in considered itself "catholic", just not Roman Catholic. There's also (and I knew this off the top of my head, yay) an Antiochian Catholic Church.
#008 | Kodiologist |
The example that usually comes to my mind first is the Church of England.

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#009 | LinkPrime1 |
Hmm, that's all news to me. Thanks guys =D

And Kodi, are you thinking of the Anglican Church?
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#010 | Kodiologist |
I think the Church of England is just one of several churches that count as Anglican? I'm not sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England

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#011 | BUM | | (edited)
But as for infallibility of the Pope...if that's what we're getting at with the implied dissonance of Jace being Catholic and gay.
""The Pope is not an oracle; he is infallible in very rare situations, as we know." - Pope Benedict XVI
"I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible" - Pope John XXIII

There's a lot of dissent in the Catholic church. Like the little npr article on the nuns who grew up with Vatican II. But they consider themselves catholic despite butting heads with the Vatican.
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#012 | Jacehan |
Right. And it's hard to agree with someone about every single thing, if not impossible. So I can personally think homosexuality is not a sin while still considering myself a Catholic.

Of course, thinking things are sins doesn't stop people from doing them. Like how 98% of Catholics these days have used birth control. Or all the religious people who have had pre-marital sex.

(That's my personal point of view, btw. Homosexuality isn't a sin, but pre-marital sex is, and homosexuals can't get married [in the Catholic Church]. This is actually fairly aligned with the church, as they don't say homosexuality itself is a sin, but merely acting on those feelings are. You can be homosexual as long as you don't do anything about it.)
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#013 | Kodiologist |
Of course, thinking things are sins doesn't stop people from doing them. Like how 98% of Catholics these days have used birth control.

And it's the same for masturbation. It wouldn't bug me so much if such people openly disagreed with Rome instead of agreeing while at the same time failing to practice what they preach.

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#014 | ShadowSpy |
What do Catholics believe about sin though? I've heard the belief that "Nobody is without sin" and, because of this, it's okay to be sinful as long as you repent for it. So even when a large majority of Catholics masturbate or use birth control, they can still agree with the church that what they're doing is wrong.
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#015 | BUM | | (edited)
Right, I don't think it's problematic to believe something is wrong and do it- but to believe something is wrong, do it, and not have any compunctions about it would be a glaring problem in my eyes. I don't think I'd word the Catholic sentiment as "It's okay as long as you say sorry." The sin is, of course, never okay. The sinner may be, but not the sin.

In Dostoevsky's "Dream of a Ridiculous Man" (yes, yes, he's Eastern orthodox, but it's all relatively similar on the big issues), a parallel world of perfect people becomes as corrupted as our own over time due to the action of the Man who discovers himself there, and tells a joke involving a lie. Whether or not that's likely is another question; the sentiment is expressed pretty bluntly.
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#016 | Kodiologist |
What does it mean to have compunctions about something, though? Trying to stop doing something you think is wrong is one thing. Merely feeling guilty about it, confessing to it, praying about it, etc. is another.

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#017 | BUM |
It was misspoken-- that is, I was oversimplifying a complicated thing, namely, guilt, by lumping all types of guilty feelings together (those we really are feeling bad about, like doing something rotten that hurt someone, and then vowing not to do that again, versus things we maybe feel guilty about on a different, almost superficial, but again that's a simplification, level, but with tongue in cheek almost as we admit the myriad future transgressions we'll commit).

I wonder if that single sentence is grammatically sound.
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