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#001 | willis5225 |
Now, nine years later, I will, for the first time, play Pikmin.

I have heard it was pretty good, although possibly not worth writing home to mother about.
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#002 | willis5225 |
Man, the graphics are amazing! Way better than the N64.
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#003 | Kylo Force |
I really liked it, but at the time that I played it I was not adept enough at resource management to beat it.

In fact, I doubt I would be able to do it even now.
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#004 | willis5225 |
This is kind of reminding me of a high stakes Harvest Moon. The sense that you're doing tiny incremental things that take at least several days per goal, except I'm kinda wigging out because I only have the 30 days. Like I am *just* keeping pace right now (10 days in/10 parts) and I'm still in the first few levels.
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#005 | Kylo Force |
IIRC it gets easier to get multiple parts in a day in the latter levels simply because you have more Pikmin to be marching around.
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#006 | SocioPathology |
Just remember to reset the very second any of your pikmin die, it's the only way to properly play the game.
#007 | UtarEmpire |
After playing Pikmin 2, I learnt the hard way that Pikmin is not Fire Emblem.
In short, there can be acceptable losses.
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#008 | Jacehan |
The time limit is definitely intense. Glad they got rid of it in Pikmin 2.
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#009 | SocioPathology |
Acceptable losses?

Heresy.
#010 | Kylo Force |
From: UtarEmpire | #007
After playing Pikmin 2, I learnt the hard way that Pikmin is not Fire Emblem.
In short, there can be acceptable losses.

That's the reason I couldn't play Fire Emblem. I cared too much. Then again, it could also be because I was learning Fire Emblem by playing The Sacred Stones.
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#011 | UtarEmpire |
Pikmin exist to be sacrificed. It is the natural order of things.
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#012 | willis5225 |
From: SocioPathology
Just remember to reset the very second any of your pikmin die, it's the only way to properly play the game.


Good lord, how do you fight any of the boss monsters? I lost some 60 troops on the three headed underground bird thing just marching them across the bridge to the battlefield.

Similarly, the frog monsters **** up my blues like nobody's business. Even a successful op has me losing a good 20 min.
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#013 | SocioPathology |
Alright, let's constructively pick apart everything that's wrong with that statement.

1) I lost some 60 troops on the three headed underground bird thing
As I'm sure anyone who's sufficiently knowledgeable in this game, If it's not a boss or that idiotic rock spitting beetle, large groups of pikmin get you killed. If you went able those birds with maybe 15-20 pikmin, then they wouldn't have even had a chance to attack you like that. Of course, that isn't saying that huge numbers are doomed to fail with good planning and coordination.

2)just marching them across the bridge to the battlefield.
Which happens to be what was lost here as well. If you're talking about the birds in the area I think your talking to, you had two solutions that would've been far better then how you messed up here. If you're so intent on using red or yellow against those birds, throwing them up to that ledge in the rightmost corner would've saved you the pains of having to settle to watching your pikmin scream in terror as the wadding pool of death drags them to their grave. Alternatively, you could have just used blue pikmin, they're not that hard to get and are practically red pikmin that can swim, There's almost no situation I can think of in this game where a blue pikmin isn't as practical against a monster then a red one.

Of course, It's completely understandable if this situation happened during the first time ever playing this game, or you didn't care or something.

3) Similarly, the frog monsters **** up my blues like nobody's business.
This one is actually understandable, those frogs are indeed pikmin's greatest jackasses, I mean look at them, they DARE you to fight them with the smuggest face known to man. While it isn't to say that they're all that difficult to kill, the fact that they actually do often go out of their way to kill, and not eat as so many other less insufferable creatures do, firmly cements their placement in the hall of Video game Screw Yous, right under the wacky neighbors of Paperboy.
#014 | UtarEmpire |
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#015 | UtarEmpire |
Actually I don't find the frogs nearly as annoying as the birds. For the frogs, I just set my Pikmin aside, lure the frog in, and hammer him when he lands.
Or, if you're in the underground chambers and you really don't want any Pikmin to die, you can beat up the frogs with your bare hands after you get the appropriate item.
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#016 | SocioPathology |
Well sure, but if you're going to cheat through the game like that you might as well not even bother.
#017 | Kodiologist |
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#018 | willis5225 |
Well, color me confused. What am I supposed to attack things with if not large groups? Like, I get that only X pikmin can task on a thing at once to kill it, but especially with the bosses I've encountered so far (the thing that was clearly a Dodrio and a robot walker thing) there were enough target spots that they could all task. More importantly, it seems like it would be really tedious to bring less than say 60 pikmin somewhere, if only because you'd have to stop, dismiss them, whistle on a small segment, notice that way more than you intended got called, dismiss them again, whistle again and slowly pare down the number. I accept that the game may call for that, but that's some bull**** is all I'm saying.

Also, the in-game text specified that reds were the best for combat. I guess I can see how they might be totally lying (it crossed my mind that "if blues can't fight at all, it pretty much cripples them, what with the water enemies," although I've mastered the "have my pikmin do something and then go walk up to the frogs and have them latch onto Olimar" technique). But yeah, if blues are almost as good at combat I guess I'm done letting the reds reproduce.

I guess I'll work on getting the thing that lets me punch; that seems essential to a great many puzzles to come.
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#019 | willis5225 |
Wait, hammer?
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#020 | Smithy04 |
Wait...alright isn't a word?
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#021 | Smithy04 |
Oh wait. I see. You were referring to alright followed by a comma vs. alright not followed by a comma.
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#022 | Smithy04 |
I like to point out the obvious in multiple consecutive posts.
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#023 | SocioPathology |
What part of small group is hard to understand. 25 should be the maximum you should use if you don't want any pikmin dead. Think about it this way, smaller number = smaller chance of casualties. If you can pile your entire group of pikmin on an enemy, then call them off before it inevitably shakes them off sending them flying right into prime death territory so you can can rinse and repeat, you're winning.

It's true that reds are stronger then blue, but what I was getting at is that in most situations, blues are just as competent at killing things as the red are. If you want to see for yourself, swarm 100 red and 100 blues against a sleeping bulborb, both will die before they can even get up.

Also, thank you for the lovely picture Kodiologist, I'm touched by the inherent beauty of this gracious gift. I'll be back in a second, I'm gonna print that work of art and stick it to my refrigerator with a magnet; Masterpieces like that need to be displayed in a museum.
#024 | willis5225 |
No, for some reason people don't think that alright is a cromulent word, even though it's been in continuous use for 1200 years.

Also, suppose I consider my pikmin an underclass, and I would rather they kill with great facility than live. I can always grow more, you see, as they're imbecile plants.
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#025 | Kodiologist |
Smithy, I can't accurately judge with respect to correctness; I only object to "alright" on aesthetic grounds. Somehow, it just looks wrong compared to "all right".

(I notice that one instance of "alright" did worm its way into my novel, compared to over sixty instances of "all right".)

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